“Balancing Expectations with Actual Realities”: Conversations with Clinicians and Scientists in the First Year of a High-Risk Childhood Cancer Precision Medicine Trial
Abstract
:1. Introduction
2. Materials and Methods
2.1. Participants
2.1.1. The PRISM Trial
2.1.2. PRISM-Impact
2.2. Procedure
2.3. Data Collection
2.3.1. Measures
2.3.2. Interview
2.4. Data Analysis
3. Results
3.1. Knowledge of and Confidence with Genetics
3.2. Interview
3.2.1. Early Experiences with PRISM
I’m not anticipating a whole lot of ‘miracle’ wins to be honest. I think there’ll be the occasional kid who appears to derive clinical benefit…but I think the majority of families will get closure out of it, rather than a miracle.(ID 49, oncologist)
The difficulty is when you have a palliative patient and you’re still giving them access to a phase 1 study their interpretation is that ‘it is going to change things’.(ID 8, oncologist)
PRISM has such a big buzz around it—you know, we had the Prime Minister come here…I think that they think PRISM is the ‘brand new personalised medicine program that will help save lives’, which is what we aim for, but we’re still setting it up.(ID 41, laboratory scientist)
I think it’ll be a little while before we see the bigger changes, but day-to-day I’m seeing the smaller changes. I’m seeing us being able to offer things to families we wouldn’t have otherwise.(ID 7, oncologist)
The basic molecular biology of these things is still over my head. However, being able to learn from the clinician-scientists and all the laboratory staff who are running all the nitty-gritty of these tests really is informative for the clinician.(ID 7, oncologist)
What would be really useful would be to know what happens with a lot of the findings whether recommendations were enacted, or if any child benefited from it. I think that would be useful especially for future patients.(ID 1, clinician-other)
3.2.2. Professional Challenges
There is no knowing whether it will be effective. There is no evidence—not much evidence—you can give to back it up. There is just a lot more uncertainty around the discussion.(ID 7, oncologist)
The difficulty was that the parents found out when the child was very unwell and palliative…so they not only had to deal with that, but also the potential that [the mother] might also be at risk.(ID 1, clinician-other)
Say it was a brain tumour and the surgeon said “Well yes I can get a biopsy but it might cost vision”. Your starting premise has to be that the harm to the child is less than the potential benefits.(ID 20, oncologist)
The big risk is that you find a therapeutic target and yes, there is a drug available, but we cannot get the drug…you build up hope and then take it away.(ID 3, oncologist)
If you see a kid who’s like two months old…you get moved by it quite a lot more than if you see the patient is 25 or 70 years old. That was the big psychological challenge.(ID 42, scientist-other)
As the time gets closer and closer, there may be more hallway talk happening, like ‘what is happening with this patient’ and then things get missed. However, no, stick to the protocol, stick to the protocol.(ID 35, scientist-other)
We need academic output to remain competitive in our careers. However, that is one of the challenges, when you invest so much in each patient. How do you translate that into academic outputs?(ID 43, scientist-other)
You need a champion at every site. It is a very smooth process within [site] but is that process going to be as smooth at the other centres? That takes resources and motivation.(ID 9, oncologist)
4. Discussion
5. Conclusions
Author Contributions
Funding
Acknowledgments
Conflicts of Interest
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Clinicians (n = 39) | Scientists (n = 15) | |
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Profession, clinicians, n (%) Oncologist Pathologist Geneticist Genetic counsellor | 35 (90) 2 (4) 1 (3) 1 (3) | |
Profession, scientists, n (%) Laboratory scientist 1 Bioinformatician Technical support | 11 (73) 3 (20) 1 (7) | |
Site, n (%) PRISM main site Others | 11 (28) 28 (72) | 11 (73) 4 (27) |
PRISM investigators 2, n (%) | 31 (79) | 1 (7) |
PRISM pilot 3, n (%) | 18 (46) | 15 (100) |
Age, mean (SD), range, y | 47 (9), 30–73 | 36 (9), 25–57 |
Sex, no. (%) Male Female | 18 (46) 21 (54) | 9 (60) 6 (40) |
No. years professional practice, mean (SD), range | 20 (12), 5–45 | 7 (5), 1-20 |
No. years paediatric oncology practice, mean (SD), range | 16 (10), 2–43 | 5 (5), 1–20 |
Time dedicated to research (%), mean (SD), range | 25 (19), 0–80 | 87 (28), 10–100 |
Topic | Themes |
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Early experiences with PRISM | Common to both groups • Cautious optimism • Managing expectations • A new way of working • The MTB: a valuable forum, with room for improvement |
Professional challenges | Clinicians • Difficulty understanding and communicating results • Balancing risk of additional biopsies • Limited drug availability and access Scientists • Greater emotional impact with more awareness of the patient • Resisting urgency • Balancing translational outputs with academic productivity Common to both groups • Logistical challenges of a national trial |
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McGill, B.C.; Wakefield, C.E.; Hetherington, K.; Munro, L.J.; Warby, M.; Lau, L.; Tyrrell, V.; Ziegler, D.S.; O’Brien, T.A.; Marshall, G.M.; et al. “Balancing Expectations with Actual Realities”: Conversations with Clinicians and Scientists in the First Year of a High-Risk Childhood Cancer Precision Medicine Trial. J. Pers. Med. 2020, 10, 9. https://doi.org/10.3390/jpm10010009
McGill BC, Wakefield CE, Hetherington K, Munro LJ, Warby M, Lau L, Tyrrell V, Ziegler DS, O’Brien TA, Marshall GM, et al. “Balancing Expectations with Actual Realities”: Conversations with Clinicians and Scientists in the First Year of a High-Risk Childhood Cancer Precision Medicine Trial. Journal of Personalized Medicine. 2020; 10(1):9. https://doi.org/10.3390/jpm10010009
Chicago/Turabian StyleMcGill, Brittany C., Claire E. Wakefield, Kate Hetherington, Lachlan J. Munro, Meera Warby, Loretta Lau, Vanessa Tyrrell, David S. Ziegler, Tracey A. O’Brien, Glenn M. Marshall, and et al. 2020. "“Balancing Expectations with Actual Realities”: Conversations with Clinicians and Scientists in the First Year of a High-Risk Childhood Cancer Precision Medicine Trial" Journal of Personalized Medicine 10, no. 1: 9. https://doi.org/10.3390/jpm10010009
APA StyleMcGill, B. C., Wakefield, C. E., Hetherington, K., Munro, L. J., Warby, M., Lau, L., Tyrrell, V., Ziegler, D. S., O’Brien, T. A., Marshall, G. M., Malkin, D., Hansford, J. R., Tucker, K. M., & Vetsch, J. (2020). “Balancing Expectations with Actual Realities”: Conversations with Clinicians and Scientists in the First Year of a High-Risk Childhood Cancer Precision Medicine Trial. Journal of Personalized Medicine, 10(1), 9. https://doi.org/10.3390/jpm10010009