‘It’s Scary and It’s Big, and There’s No Job Security’: Undergraduate Experiences of Career Planning and Stratification in an English Red Brick University
Abstract
:1. Introduction
2. Graduate Employability: Non-Linearity and Disadvantage
3. Research Design and Methods
4. Results
4.1. Undergraduate Approaches to Career Management
I can go and do five years and just be a dentist. Yeah we have the highest graduate prospects of any course. It’s 99.9% of people that get a job but that 0.1% includes people who will go abroad, so they don’t include in the 99.9% so it’s pretty much 100%, if you want to be a dentist, you’ll get a job.(Lucy, second interview, NFW)
Because apart from the easy job prospect and things like that, there’s also a good possibility that the job will always be there. We don’t know what’s going on now with the economic situation, but, in my opinion, there should be guarantee for me of getting a job after… It’s just the right choice.(Ade, first interview, FW)
I’ll probably end up in finance, I think. I’ve always thought about going into finance from year 10/11, but I ended up going with engineering because I can still get there by the same route. I still do engineering because I like cars and stuff like that, but I don’t know if it’s for me at the end of the day. I think I’m more driven by money, motivated by money… I don’t know if it’s a bad thing or a good thing. But yes, I think that the pay in the engineering sector isn’t as high as other sectors, but we do the same amount of work. So, yes, I might do consultancy or stuff like that really, so a, kind of, a mixture of engineering, but the business side of it as well.(Kai, second interview, FW)
My mum has become more Westernised since she’s come over here, so I feel like if I did pick, like, an art and humanities subject, she’d be cool with it. But I feel like she’s happier that I did engineering because she knows that I should get a job out of it and it will be okay. I remember her speaking to me in sixth form and she was like, ‘I’m worried about you,’ because it was the recession back then. She was like, ‘I’m worried that you might not get a job’. But in engineering you’ll always need someone to do this, this, this and this. So, if you ever come to a certain scenario you can just get a job wherever.(Kai, third interview, FW)
I’ve been applying to law firms for open days and that sort of thing and I’ve got one at [law firm] in the summer, so that’s something. I’m quite proud of that because they’re a Magic Circle5 firm, so I’m happy to have got something like that.(Sadie, first interview, NFW)
I feel like your degree can be applied practically rather than just in exams. So it’s nice because it’s an opportunity that not a lot of other members of my year group gets to do.(Sadie, second interview, NFW)
[Doing a PhD is] something that when I first started it was something I thought: I’d… no chance, I wouldn’t want to be in education for that long (…). ‘cause I didn’t really know much about [PhDs] to be honest. But I kind of learnt a lot more about how they work and things like that and it’s something that well, it’s like I say, if I enjoy it, I’m to do another project over summer, and I enjoy it and if I’m enjoying like my fourth year project next year, then it’s something I’d definitely consider. I think I’d apply for jobs as well in case I was to change my mind at any point but it’s something that like I’m really like considering now, like quite interested in.(Ben, third interview, NFW)
(…) you know they always say, ‘Oh you learn so many transferable skills in history’? I always thought that it was, not rubbish, but I was just kind of like, ‘Oh, I’m sure I’ve learnt loads of things, but I’m not sure they’re directly applicable.’ But now since I’ve been applying for jobs and stuff, I have actually come to realise that I have actually learnt quite a lot of important skills. Especially with writing and communicating and things like that. So, yes, it’s made me more open-minded as well I think.(Megan, third interview, NFW)
[A lecturer talking about their fractured transitions into academia] made me realise that you have to do things for yourself and life’s not a straight progression. So you may as well just do what seems right at the time then it’ll come together somehow.(Megan, third interview, NFW)
I’ve got to mention you’re learning new things and meeting new people, you’re living in different places, all these things are things that make you, other things that change you as well. So I felt like I came as a kid but I’m leaving a man… I’ve learned so much in terms of life skills, in terms of managing my own time, managing my organisation in general, communicating with different people from different backgrounds. I mean [city] is so diverse, I’ve learned a vast amount, so much.(Dylan, fourth interview, FW)
I don’t know, nothing’s particularly jumping out at me at the minute. I mean, I know the things that I’m not interested in. But I mean I quite like, oh no I don’t know, I mean there’s lots of things that I’m interested in. So it’s kind of hard for me to pick one. (…) So it’s kind of, I just need to sit down and have a think, like what I actually want to do, ‘cause I’ve not really thought about it.(Sandra, second interview, FW)
I think I realised kind of how much I didn’t like my degree—and after looking back I was like ‘I actually really didn’t like doing it’. I’m glad I did it in the end and I’m glad I got my 2:1, but I think I need to sort of make sure I’m happy with what I’m doing regardless of how long it takes me to get there… and I think I’ve realised not to rush myself into something which I’m unhappy doing, because I feel like I probably did that with my degree.(Sandra, fourth interview, FW)
It was a fall into recruitment rather than a choice, but after a few days of researching what it was, and researching the companies, it was something that I was actually quite interested in doing. Or, you know—maybe not interested—but something that I’d definitely think I’d excel at as well.(Daniel, third interview, NFW)
I mean, in the interviews, what I was doing was essentially everything I’ve ever done at University; twisting it in some way and making it into a recruitment kind of associated, that’s what I was doing, yeah… Playing rugby at University was what got me the job!… Yeah, they love people playing rugby—or sport in general—because it shows that you’re very competitive at heart and you love being part of a team that works to win… it just demonstrates a lot of skills that they want to have in someone that they’re hiring. So, yeah, they love, love sports, sportsmen and sportswomen.(Daniel, third interview, NFW)
4.2. Career Pathways: Complexity and Change
I never even considered the alternative side to law until I had done the criminology modules, because I sit there and I think, yeah this is interesting. And I don’t love it so much that I want to actively write the essays and sit the exams, but I reckon I could work in it… I don’t really want to work in a prison because let’s face it, I’m four foot nine and most of the prisoners can probably pick me up if they wanted to—I’m not going to be helpful in a riot am I? But I think it would be alright.(Natasha, third interview, NFW)
I had no idea what I wanted to do in the first year, and then sort of did the course, knowing that it was a good course, ‘because it was broad at the end, and you could really go into anything. I then figured out since being at uni, how much I liked [area of interest]. And then thought, oh, you’re meant to do a job that you enjoy, and that you’re interested in, so I looked into areas associated with that. And I found the association for [course topic], and how in order to be accredited you had to do a [further] course that was accredited.(Emilia, third interview, NFW)
I know I flip-flopped a lot, because the last time I saw you I said, ‘no I’m done with it all’, but I think doing this job, it didn’t require me to have a degree or anything. I found that the aspects that I did enjoy [were] about the subjects which were in my course, I kind of want to go back to them.(Mo, fourth interview, FW)
Do you know what really annoyed me? They sent out a survey asking if you’re in work now. So, obviously I ticked “yes”—but it was like ‘ooh, 48% of your students have now got a job within six months”. There was no option of ‘a shitty job’; tick. ‘A job that’s not got anything to do with a course that I didn’t want to do, and I’m deeply regretting’; tick. Do you know what I mean? I just felt like it would completely misguide any future participants [in HE].(Natasha, fourth interview, NFW)
I decided to just stay in [hometown], because I wanted to try and live in [ERBU city], but I worked out all the costs and I was like the money that I’d save by not paying rent would really help to save up to go travelling if I lived at home, so I worked that all out and then stayed put… I’m working in [retail], full-time, and everyone knows I’ll only be there for 18 more months until like next September, which is hopefully when I’m going to go traveling.(Lauren, fourth interview, FW)
4.3. Constraining and Enabling Mechanisms beyond University
I could never go into [arts]. It’s too [much] of a closed industry. From working in it [as a volunteer] for the past year, it’s bullshit. It’s absolute bullshit. The thing about it is, you know, from what I’ve learnt it’s scary and it’s big and there’s no job security, but at the same time every other job that I’ve looked at over the past three years hasn’t had job security either. So, what am I going to do?(James, fourth interview, FW)
I feel like people from this university [from middle-class backgrounds] can just say, ‘Well, why doesn’t he quit?’ In that position, like, you can’t quit because you’ve just invested three years and you’ve got family pressures where you feel, ‘Okay. I’m a part of the family unit. I have to contribute because we’re from a working-class background and we can’t really afford all of that’.(Khaled,6 third interview, NFW)
Yes, there is a new loan. But I worry about that because you’ve already got your undergraduate loan. That one, you don’t pay back until 2019, or if you have got over 21.7 But then I’d be paying two back at the same time because they are not put together, they are separate. So I don’t think I could go for that. I’m not sure about it and I don’t trust George Osborne.8(Aina, third interview, FW)
My dad said ‘if you want a job in [city], with [professional services area], you’ll have to move to [there]’. I said ‘yeah, better than staying at home and working in a pub’. Do you know what I mean?… I was struggling to like to get anything else, because I didn’t have any like administration experience or anything like that, so it was sort of a good place to start.(Mary, fourth interview, NFW)
[I] probably [applied for] about 20 [jobs] in the end—which is actually under the average for people who do my [arts and humanities course]. So, I think I kind of got away with it really. It wasn’t just sending for applications. It was doing interviews and all sorts. It’s not just sending CVs. You’ve got to do interviews. I went down to London like four or five times, which cost me a leg and an arm, just to go to interviews… But it was worth it in the end because I got a job, so. It was fairly time-consuming as in I think I’ve sacrificed a few, like a few percentages [of third-year module outcomes] for doing so.(Daniel, third interview, NFW)
I think these type of firms are trying to open up more to everyone, but again, I don’t know until I work there. A lot of people I spoke to are from [university] and [university], obviously very prestigious universities. I noticed a lot of people from my internship are all from really wealthy backgrounds. So, I don’t know if it’s a standard thing in the firm or not. I’ve got to see how it goes really. Some of them are ridiculously rich and their parents have boats, ‘Who are you guys?’(Kai, fourth interview, FW)
[A]ny other kid from a poorer background or a background where there’s no connections, he has to work all the way up there. It’s just one of those things, like even with the medicine thing, a lot of people that do undergrad [before entering medicine], a lot of them are from well-off families so they can afford it, but you could have someone equally qualified or even more but because they’re from a poorer family, they can’t afford to get through undergrad so they’re less likely to get in.(Mo, third interview, FW)
Everything I’m fighting now is to do with social capital and it feels like you do need more than education to get somewhere in society. It’s not meritocracy.(Aina, third interview, FW)
5. Discussion
Author Contributions
Funding
Acknowledgment
Conflicts of Interest
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1 | Two participants declined to be interviewed in year three, and seven either declined or were uncontactable for the purposes of interview in year four. |
2 | Low number of records supressed and marked. |
3 | Low number of records supressed and marked. |
4 | Russell Group Universities are a self-selecting group of research-intensive institutions within the United Kingdom, generally attracting students with higher entry grades. |
5 | ‘Magic circle’ is an informal term used for a group of law firms operating in the City of London with the largest revenues. |
6 | Although Khaled was not eligible for the fee waiver, he did receive substantial amount of financial support from ERBU, given that he was a low-income student. |
7 | Referring to the £21,000-a-year earnings threshold above which students start the repayments of their student loans. This has since been raised to £25,000 yearly income. |
8 | George Osborne was then the Chancellor of the Exchequer. |
No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver | ||
---|---|---|---|
In work | Count | 1679 | 133 |
% within column | 59.2% | 61% | |
Further studies | Count | 822 | 68 |
% within column | 29% | 31.2% | |
Unemployed | Count | 96 | 10 |
% within column | 3.4% | 4.6% | |
Something else/Travel | Count | 186 | 6 |
% within column | 6.6% | 2.8% | |
Refusal (total) | 56 | ||
1.8% | |||
Total | 2838 | 218 |
No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver | ||
---|---|---|---|
Permanent employment contract | Count | 909 | 74 |
% within column | 50.6% | 51.4% | |
Fixed-term employment contract | Count | 500 | 33 |
% within column | 27.8% | 22.9% | |
Self-employed, voluntary, placement, zero hours contract | Count | 261 | 22 |
% within column | 14.5% | 15.3% | |
Other/Else | Count | 127 | 15 |
% within column | 7.1% | 10.4% | |
Total | 1797 | 144 |
No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver2 | ||
---|---|---|---|
It fitted into my career plan | Count | 481 | 24 |
% within column | 35% | 20.2% | |
It was the best job offer I received | Count | 106 | 11 |
% within column | 7.7% | 9.2% | |
It was the only job offer I received | Count | 49 | ~ |
% within column | 3.6% | ~ | |
It was an opportunity to progress in the organisation | Count | 76 | 10 |
% within column | 5.5% | 8.4% | |
To see if I would like the type of work it involved | Count | 93 | ~ |
% within column | 6.8% | ~ | |
To gain and broaden my experience in order to get the type of job I really want | Count | 200 | 26 |
% within column | 14.5% | 21.8% | |
It was in the right location | Count | 95 | 6 |
% within column | 6.9% | 5.0% | |
The job was well-paid | Count | 64 | 9 |
% within column | 4.7% | 7.6% | |
In order to earn a living/pay off debts | Count | 212 | 29 |
% within column | 15.4% | 24.4% | |
Total | 1376 | 119 |
Employment | Self-Employment/Freelance | Further Study | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver | No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver | No Fee Waiver | Fee Waiver3 | ||
Very well | Count | 362 | 29 | 105 | 7 | 883 | 77 |
% within column | 17.3% | 16.7% | 5% | 4% | 42.5% | 44.5% | |
Well | Count | 1094 | 85 | 358 | 33 | 834 | 75 |
% within column | 52.4% | 48.9% | 17.2% | 19% | 40.2% | 43.4% | |
Not very well | Count | 349 | 32 | 572 | 50 | 113 | ~ |
% within column | 16.7% | 18.4% | 27.5% | 28.7% | 5.4% | ~ | |
Not at all | Count | 113 | 12 | 520 | 53 | 25 | ~ |
% within column | 5.4% | 6.9% | 25% | 30.5% | 1.2% | ~ | |
Can’t tell | Count | 169 | 16 | 527 | 31 | 221 | 10 |
% within column | 8.1% | 9.2% | 25.3% | 17.8% | 10.6% | 7.7% | |
Total | 2087 | 174 | 2082 | 174 | 2076 | 173 |
Professional | Preparatory | Experimental | Postponement | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Reason for study | Instrumental | Instrumental | Enhancement | Deferral |
Nature of career goals across student lifecycle | Stable | Stable | Emergent | Uncertain |
Occupational outcome | Fixed | Dependent | Dependent | Serendipitous |
Involvement in extracurricular activities | Unfocused | Focused | Focused | Unfocused |
Direction of career decision making | Prospective | Prospective | Dynamic | Retrospective |
Name | Professional | Preparatory | Experimental | Postponement | Fee-Waiver Status |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Charlotte * | Y1, Y2, Y3 | NFW | |||
Sara | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
Robert | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | NFW | |||
Amy | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
Lucy | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | NFW | |||
Ade ** | Y1, Y2, Y3 | FW | |||
Lizzie ** | Y1, Y2, Y3 | NFW | |||
Dylan | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
Sandra | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
William | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | NFW | |||
Amina | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | NFW | |||
Sadie * | Y1, Y2 | NFW | |||
Rachel | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | NFW | |||
Naveed | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
James | Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 | FW | |||
Joshua * | Y1 | Y2 | FW | ||
Hannah | Y1, Y2, Y3 | Y4 | NFW | ||
Natasha | Y1, Y4 | Y3 | Y2 | NFW | |
Lauren | Y1 | Y3 | Y2, Y4 | FW | |
Mo | Y1 | Y4 | Y2, Y3 | FW | |
Claudia | Y3 | Y1, Y2, Y4 | FW | ||
Ben | Y4 | Y3 | Y1, Y2 | NFW | |
Chris | Y4 | Y1, Y2, Y3 | NFW | ||
Samuel | Y4 | Y2, Y3 | Y1 | FW | |
Mary | Y4 | Y1, Y2, Y3 | NFW | ||
Taylor | Y4 | Y3 | Y1, Y2 | NFW | |
Kim ** | Y2, Y3 | Y1 | FW | ||
Selena | Y4 | Y2, Y3 | Y1 | NFW | |
Emilia | Y4 | Y3 | Y1, Y2 | NFW | |
Khaled | Y4 | Y2, Y3 | Y1 | NFW | |
Adam | Y4 | Y1, Y2, Y3 | NFW | ||
Daniel | Y3, Y4 | Y1, Y2 | NFW | ||
Megan ** | Y3 | Y2 | Y1 | NFW | |
Aina | Y4 | Y3 | Y1, Y2 | FW | |
Katy | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | FW | ||
Holly | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | FW | ||
Olivia | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | NFW | ||
Gemma | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | FW | ||
Sophie | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | NFW | ||
Kai | Y2, Y3, Y4 | Y1 | FW |
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Hordósy, R.; Clark, T. ‘It’s Scary and It’s Big, and There’s No Job Security’: Undergraduate Experiences of Career Planning and Stratification in an English Red Brick University. Soc. Sci. 2018, 7, 173. https://doi.org/10.3390/socsci7100173
Hordósy R, Clark T. ‘It’s Scary and It’s Big, and There’s No Job Security’: Undergraduate Experiences of Career Planning and Stratification in an English Red Brick University. Social Sciences. 2018; 7(10):173. https://doi.org/10.3390/socsci7100173
Chicago/Turabian StyleHordósy, Rita, and Tom Clark. 2018. "‘It’s Scary and It’s Big, and There’s No Job Security’: Undergraduate Experiences of Career Planning and Stratification in an English Red Brick University" Social Sciences 7, no. 10: 173. https://doi.org/10.3390/socsci7100173
APA StyleHordósy, R., & Clark, T. (2018). ‘It’s Scary and It’s Big, and There’s No Job Security’: Undergraduate Experiences of Career Planning and Stratification in an English Red Brick University. Social Sciences, 7(10), 173. https://doi.org/10.3390/socsci7100173