Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing: A Unique Sub-Group, the “Cardboard Grannies of Hong Kong”
Abstract
:1. Introduction
1.1. Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing
1.2. Who Are the “Cardboard Grannies” of Hong Kong?
1.3. Research Objective and Questions
2. Materials and Methods
2.1. Sample, Recruitment and Data Collection
2.2. Data Analysis
3. Results
3.1. Participant Characteristics (N = 41)
3.2. Service Needs: Perspectives from Older Adult IWPs and Key Informants
3.2.1. Theme 1: Social Relations with Others at the Worksite/Neighbourhood
Positive Experiences
“When she sees me she always asks her mom to help me. Her mom always helps me to push my trolley when she comes back. Yes, she cares about me a lot. It’s so rare to meet nice people like her. She helps me to push the trolley to the entrance. They can find me in MTR station. Yesterday or last Friday, she found me and told me she was studying university. She knew me since kindergarten. I knew her since kindergarten!” (I13).
“I don’t know about other people. When the grannies come, we pay them accurately by weight. The other place might have different pay rates according to how good they deem the quality of the cardboard. If the quality isn’t great they might pay less. But we don’t do that. Sometimes, if we see the grannies come I will pay them a bit more.” (I2).
Negative Experiences
- Insecure Working Spaces
“Waste-picking is time consuming. Cutting and packing cardboards are time consuming. For example, the cardboard boxes disposed by the pharmacy, which also have other waste [non-recyclables] in the boxes have to be categorised, cut and packed. The time cost is high.” (I07).
“My things are in the alley so I can pick and organize. I have no time. Yeah, I have to do it every day. Little by little. I need to empty them by Lunar New Year, so I can take my trolley away. Yeah, I sleep here to watch my trolley. I worry about my trolley being stolen. That’s all. So I sleep on the street, which is quite comfortable.” (I14).
“You know I could still put the recyclables at home when my children were still small. They are now married and some of them even have kids. So I can’t put the recyclables at home, and I have no choice but to put the cardboards on the streets. I waste pick a lot. I usually sell the cardboards in the early morning and then I continue picking. After that, I go to get free lunchboxes and have lunch outside. After that, I continue picking until late night when everyone finishes working. After picking, then I have to pack and sort the cardboards. You know, sometimes I sleep with the cardboards on the street!” (P5 FGD).
“Unlike Taiwan, there is no education about the ecology and recycling in Hong Kong. In other sense, everyone is a waste-picker because everyone has the responsibility to do recycling. This is the healthiest development of recycling. But in Hong Kong, only the older people are doing recycling.” (I06).
“The most effective thing we can help is to provide an area in public spaces for them but there are so many drawbacks. It depends on public spaces which are limited, you know. Sometimes the cardboards are organised but sometimes it could be very messy. Of course it is not that easy because there are opposing voices from other co-workers and it involves different government departments such as the Lands Department. Also, the departments are afraid of taking the responsibility when there is an accident.” (I11).
- 2.
- Conflict with FEHD and Other Informal Waste Pickers
“Last year, I collected a lot of stuff during the New Year. And then people from the Department [FEHD] threw them all away. Yeah. They took it all away. That year they took their holiday earlier. The authorities took them all away.” (I12).
“That time when they took three of my carts at once, I called the bosses or like manager at the waste collection station and asked them if they had seen my cart. I was like how did they have the nerve to do that? They took away my properties and confiscated them. Do you give me money to buy my stuff back? I worked so hard to earn and save that money to buy the cart. They took so many carts. It’s a couple thousands (of HK$) and are they going to give me back that money? Are you even human? There was nothing on the carts. I put locks on them. No one was going to walk there and I’m not in the way of something, but they still took my things away. It’s not like they paid me for my cart. I paid for it myself, right? You cannot just do that! I cannot even get it back. What do I do? Of course, this is the most worrying. The second thing I’m most worried about is my health.” (I15).
“Those staff [from the FEHD] said there was nothing wrong for me to scavenge cardboards. They said I could earn money and I helped the environment! They come because they have to fulfil their duty. They are so nice to me. When those staff come, they were so polite and they asked me to remove things for them to take a photo, just for their duty. Yes, they are so nice to me every time.” (I10).
“Yeah, they [other pickers] say that it’s theirs. What they are saying is basically that it is their jurisdiction. That I am not to intrude in their area. But I’m like, I don’t go and take your stuff. These are all public places. When I see them picking somewhere I would not go near. But they always occupy the spaces, making it impossible for me to collect near them. And they come near me when they see me collecting things.” (I12).
“Sometimes I have a deal with the shop keepers who would save the cardboards for me. But some staff there know other pickers and they would give it to them instead. I was angry when I knew that. I told the shop keeper, and she promised to keep an eye on it for me. The staff was upset about me because she could not give it to the person from her village. The other picker argues with me every day. It is about her greediness. She only takes thick cardboards and throws away thin cardboards. She parks the trolley to my place and blocks my way.” (I14).
- 3.
- Stigma Attached to Picking
“We are at this age where we don’t mind how they see us. Whether you think I am bad or good I will just mind my own business. It’s all about earning to me. I don’t care about what they think. I don’t disgrace myself even if people look down upon me. That’s all.” (I03).
“Generally, there’s more women. Well, men have to save face don’t they? Some of them at least. I heard from one lady that the other day she asked her husband to bring some cardboard over. Her husband works at the fruit market and he doesn’t deliver to the door. He was scared of people seeing him here.” (I02).
3.2.2. Theme 2: Picking Provides a Trifecta Experience
For Meaning/Purpose
“Well, they [her family] have to go to work, so I’m home alone most of the time. So I have a lot of things to think about by myself. If they are back then I have people to talk to and I can chat. If not, then there’s nothing to do. There’s nothing to do other than facing the four walls so what’s the point then.” (I15).
“If I don’t come here [referring to the neighbourhood in which she picks] I’m just idle at home with nothing to do. It’s not about the money. I don’t care about that. I just want something to do. When I am falling asleep and thinking about the day, and I know that I have done something for the day, I feel happy. I feel energized.” (I16).
“From my observation actually they don’t need the income from waste-picking to sustain their livelihood, but they still do it every day. To be fair, the government provides living allowances for them, but they don’t care about this. Take an example of this granny, she could barely walk because her legs have issues. She said it takes 30 min for her to walk back home. She still does waste-picking every day, but if you ask her if she is really financially insufficient the answer is no. People have different goals in life probably.” (I04).
For Income
“I worked in [Name of Company] Estate Agency Limited. I needed to retire when I was 65 years old. They didn’t renew my contract. I needed to still support my family, so I scavenged cardboard. No one would hire me you know even if I want to clean toilets! Of course, I would choose a full-time job. You can gain at least HK$10,000 a month, right? Minimum wage HK$30–40, right? I can only earn around HK$30 a day. Yes, if I could choose I would find a job. But no one will hire me.” (I05).
“I would like to stop scavenging cardboards, but how can I live? No choice. I have to pay for rent. HK$4000 is difficult for me as I don’t have a job. I use all my money for rent and nothing is left. How can I maintain my daily life and [get] meals!? No I can’t. It’s so annoying. The most important thing for me is to get public housing now. If I can get public housing I don’t have to pick. I am still waiting for it. I have applied for the normal and express flat allocation. I don’t know when I will get it though.” (I02).
“You know Hong Kong has the CSSA scheme (social assistance) and people who receive CSSA cannot go to work (because they will be ineligible to receive CSSA once they have certain amount of income). Therefore they choose to do waste-picking to earn more income as the money from CSSA is not enough for their livelihood.” (I07).
For Exercise
“Mainly for exercise. I bring my trolley and walk around, no matter if there are items or not [to pick]. I feel better as I walk more. My knees used to give me pain. Yes, no pain now. If I don’t walk I feel painful.” (I06).
“We find out more reasons why the older people are doing waste-picking. The other main reason (aside from income) is that it is good for the body and it is like a kind of exercise. It makes you healthier let’s say mentally. So some of the older people insist to work because it makes them healthier and happier and they say they can sleep better.” (I09).
Trifecta Experience
3.2.3. Theme 3: Physical Decline and Medical Health Needs
“Medicine every day. Every day I take a lot of medications. They told me that I have to get injections. I don’t want to do that. If you started injections you can’t just stop. You must maintain it and keep injecting. It’s too troublesome to me. That’s why I’m on another kind of drug. My dosage has been increasing. I just need to take one pill each time in the past and now I have to take two of them, ha ha ha, and I have four different kinds of medications to take. Yeah, morning and night.” (I12).
“The doctor said I have “three highs” -high blood pressure, high fat [cholesterol] and high blood sugar [diabetes]. The doctor prescribed medication for me to control it. He said I needed to take it, otherwise I will get into trouble. So I’ve been on medication for more than 10 years, but I have not increased the dose.” (I11).
“Scavenging cardboard is hard because you need to bend over to pick cardboard. If there are many cardboards I need to grip a chair. I get a painful wrist and backbones. I feel painful if I walk, but I don’t have a solution. My legs and wrist feel aching during walking.” (I06).
“They actually can’t sustain their work. They’ve told me this. Even the younger ones always say that their bodies have problems. I know that they get scratches and sprains easily. It’s so dirty. It’s different for them if they get scratched. Their immune systems aren’t great. If they get inflammation then they need at least a couple weeks to recover. It’s totally different from when we get hurt.” (I08).
“I usually tell waste-pickers to be aware of the traffic. The most dangerous thing for waste-pickers is that they usually walk between the gaps of cars. Most older people are relatively short and the truck drivers can barely see them. So I always tell them to walk in front of the cars instead of behind and at the sides so the drivers could see them. The cars could hit them easily.” (I07).
“We actually gave them reflective vests but many of them refuse to wear them. So sometimes we give them hats where the edges are reflective. They are happier to wear the hats because it is hot in the summer and the hats can protect them from the sunlight and heat.” (I07).
“In general, I think we can provide them with gears such as gloves, cutters, reflective vests, boots, trolleys, etc. Also, we can also provide them with education of work safety. But the point is whether they would accept these supports.” (I09).
“Yes, but it [gloves] comes in the way when I try to tie stuff. But I do wear it when I breakdown the cardboard. You know the edges of the cardboards are sharp. I’m old and my skin is fragile. I can easily bleed from broken skin.” (I15).
3.2.4. Theme 4: Family Relations
“Well, they [her children] want me to stop but they can’t stop me. Like now, I am able to walk and move. If I don’t find something to pass the time, I feel very lonely. A lot of things to think about, sitting at home with just your four walls facing you. You die sooner.” (I15).
“This [referring to the children telling their parents to stop picking] increases their burden. It’s like the children say don’t go, we’ve already told you to stop waste-picking. Some homes don’t support them. So, they might face some family conflict. Their environment is already not the best and this adds to their stress. Life is tough.” (I15).
3.2.5. Theme 5: Mindset and Values of the Older Adult IWPs
Used to Suffering
“Life was quite difficult back then. Yeah, my whole person was cultivated from it. If I don’t cultivate myself I would have been on the wrong path. At that time we had nothing—no social welfare. We could not even borrow money from others. Those rich relatives -they were afraid of being dragged down, so we had a difficult time. We could not count on anybody.” (I03).
“We are used to living in poverty. We’ve come here [Hong Kong] for more than 20 years. We came in 1994 and our life was so hard. We scavenge cardboard now and can get around HK$10. It’s like getting gold! We are used to living in poverty, we were so poor.” (I04).
Low Self-Efficacy and Introversion
“No, I don’t have other activities. What can I do? I don’t like gathering. I love staying alone. I am not a good person. Yes, I seldom socialize with others. I am afraid of saying something wrong. It is not good if I offend someone.” (I04).
“I don’t talk too much because I don’t know how to say things, I am not educated. I don’t want to offend others, right? So I go out and be a silly woman. To scavenge something. Then the next thing you know the day is filled!” (I11).
Strong Need for Independence and Dignity
“Many people donate things to me, but I reject. I don’t want to help others and I don’t want to seek help from others. Yes, rely on myself. Others don’t seek my help and I don’t seek others’ help. It is difficult for me to return the favour. I put this in my mind.” (I07).
“I don’t want to have their money. I will feel miserable if I receive their donation. They said they gave me out of concern, no other reason. I rejected and told them to keep their money. And thanked them for their kindness. Sometimes they would also donate to my wife, but I told her to reject it. I don’t need any donation to support my living condition. It is not good to receive other’s donation.” (I10).
3.2.6. Theme 6: Access to Social Welfare
“The most important thing for me is to get public housing now. I am still waiting for it. I don’t know when I can get it. Maybe 3 or should be 4 years? I don’t know, they gave me a form. I have to fill in that form, but I still have not received any approval. My landlord said my contract will end very soon and she requested me to leave. Because the building is going to be demolished. I have called the landlord and asked if I can live one more month and she allowed for it. But two days before, she suddenly called me and requested me to leave. So I have to rent a new flat immediately. I have no choice.” (I02).
“The fruit money (OAA), it’s not enough. Things are expensive nowadays. If you have to pay rent with HK$3000 dollars you don’t even get to eat after you pay rent. You know? I applied and I think I am a year away from the three years waiting period. We will see. We old people—it’s faster for us, but I don’t know how much faster.” (I15).
“If I have the social welfare. I will no longer need to do waste picking for making up the living expenses. I don’t need to enjoy life. Just no need to suffer. I did not apply—people said to me why didn’t you apply for the social welfare? I don’t want to count on it when I can still make my own living. So I only have the fruit money [OAA]. It’s only slightly over a HK$1000.” (I03).
“They cancelled my OALA. They said I had HK$100,000–200,000. So I do save money in the bank. They have my record in the bank and cancelled my OAA. Does cancel mean I can get nothing? I am afraid of getting nothing after they cancel. They sent a letter to me. I don’t know how to fill it in.” (I05).
“Then because I got diabetic retinopathy that doctor said I needed to receive injections but I didn’t have money. I had 4 injections for this eye. That was the final injection so it was more expensive. It was HK$9700. They [the NGO] helped me to claim back the fee. They are so nice. I didn’t know them before but they helped me. Later [the social worker] usually comes and visit us. We discussed my case and I got CSSA. I found someone to help. As you know we don’t know many things.” (I09).
“Why must they pick to sustain their lives? Why can’t they have a comfortable life in their later life stage? You see almost all of the scavengers are older in age, but not one of a younger age. Why would there be such a poor situation in older people’s welfare? So this is the fault of the society because of the inadequacy of the older people welfare.” (I14).
3.2.7. Theme 7: Formal versus Informal Work
“Well, if we turned it into a business maybe it’ll be a good thing if we can make it work. Like territorialisation and conflict between waste-pickers. Why? Because there’s no official order and so they need to create some sort of underground order. And these problems arise because you didn’t recognise them as official workers from the beginning.” (I08).
“It is about their options. The special feature of waste-picking is that it is easy to enter the industry and basically we can go and start working now ha ha ha. You do not need an employer, a contract, a departmental official, and you do not need to prepare anything to start working.” (I09).
“Of course there will be two outcomes if there is a law regulating waste-picking as formalised work. The first outcome is waste-picking will become systematic, just like the outsourcing system of FEHD cleaning. I think it is very unlikely that the government would legislate to regulate waste-picking because it is too complicated. Once it is regulated, some parties will be eliminated, and you know who will be eliminated—the older people. I think the best is to keep the current situation, because nobody wants to get a hand on this as it is too complicated. It is better to keep this state (informal work) because nobody is going to be eliminated or regulated.” (I06).
“I can quit anytime, but sitting here is like waiting for death right? I can’t do it for long hours as well. It’s just 2–3 h and then I will have a rest. It works fine. I am too old to be hired. This job is the most suitable for me. I don’t have to be rushed. I can earn a little money, something like this.” (I03).
“There is no restriction of scavenging, right? I pick some when I have time. You don’t need to count the amount and there is no constriction. I feel happy about this. This is not a job, right? You can use any method to fold. No rules, and I do it when I have time. You have freedom. Jobs don’t have freedom, right?” (I04).
3.2.8. Theme 8: Prices for Recyclables
“Well, with the subsidy the price for buying cardboard was fixed at HK$0.7/kg, but then we also sold the cardboard for HK$0.7/kg. The price of HK$0.7/kg helped the grannies, and we sold the cardboard for HK$0.7–0.8/kg. So the subsidy was obviously trying to help the grannies by raising what we would pay them. We didn’t earn much from selling the cardboard, but the government subsidised us. If we sold 25 tons of cardboard, then we’d get HK$9000. If we sold 40 tons a month, then we’d get HK$13,000. So we’d get money from the subsidy to cover our costs.” (I02).
“It is not always good to set the buying price of paper too high, because it will harm the older people. My personal evaluation is that the best price is about HK$0.6–0.7/kg, because the younger generation around the 40 to 50 years age would not have strong incentive to collect cardboards at this price. So, waste-picking would be friendlier to the older people. If it is over HK$1/kg, there will be competition as more people would do waste-picking. You know older people cannot walk rapidly, they cannot collect cardboards as fast as others.” (I07).
“Actually, I think there is not much actual impact. The problem is it is very difficult to monitor. Let’s say the buying price is fixed but the depots could cheat by adjusting the measurement of the weight so they can pay less to the waste-pickers. This is what I mean like when we see waste-picking as a business. The businessmen have many tricks to maximise their profit and it turns out to exploit the pickers.” (I11).
“I used to put the trolley full with cardboards on the street overnight and carry and sell it to the recycling depot in the morning after around 7–8 a.m. But you know, at that time the price of cardboards was really low, which was only HK$0.3/kg, so not many depots would buy the cardboard that I collected.” (FGD, P2).
“Yes, more people started scavenging like what I’ve mentioned before, because the recovery price is high now. When I walk around now some youngsters like you they started scavenging too so I can’t get any. It was HK$0.3/half kg in the past so I got more. But I can’t get any cardboards now. That’s it [pointing to her trolley].” (I04).
3.2.9. Theme 9: Impact of COVID-19
3.3. Contributions (Social Impact) of the Older Adult Informal Waste Pickers
3.3.1. Theme 1: Caregiving to Family Members
“I need to take care of my grandchild. I have this difficulty only. My grandchild has this problem. I have no solution. My son’s health is not good. He has a disease. He needs to work. There is no solution, so I scavenge cardboards.” (I07).
“My son has anxiety. So, I have this worry now. I am worried about the recurrence of his problem. He is now taking medication. There will be no harm to his health if he can still take medication! But he doesn’t listen to me. He is so aggressive. I am worried about him now.” (I04).
3.3.2. Theme 2: “Environmental Pioneers” and Enhancing Public Cleanliness
“From the perspective of the recycling industrial chain, waste-pickers are the frontline workers. Let’s suppose waste-picking and recycling is a job. They have long working hours of waste-picking and are the bottom of the pyramid of the recycling industry. They are the first one to interact with the recyclables. So, I would say they are the environmental pioneers. I want them to gain that recognition.” (I06).
“I take this as helping them to throw away the garbage. It’s mutual help. I take my heart out to help people. I am getting older. I want to accumulate merits. I clear the waste, and the outsourced workers (referring the formal cleaning staff in public areas) are less burdened. If I don’t do that, the waste would be all over the street, a total mess.” (I03).
“Well, we both get something. To society the cardboards are taken to be recycled. More income to them. And to us too personally. If we don’t do that, the government would have to hire a lot more cleaners.” (I12).
4. Discussion
5. Conclusions
Author Contributions
Funding
Institutional Review Board Statement
Informed Consent Statement
Data Availability Statement
Conflicts of Interest
Appendix A
Participants (n = 26) | |
---|---|
Gender | |
Female | 21 |
Male | 5 |
Age | |
Young-old (65–74) | 4 |
Middle-old (75–84) | 14 |
Old-old (85+) | 8 |
Place of birth | |
Hong Kong | 1 |
China (Mainland) | 23 |
Undisclosed * | 2 |
Length of living in Hong Kong | |
Less than 10 years | 2 |
11–20 years | 1 |
21–30 years | 8 |
31–40 years | 4 |
41–50 years | 7 |
50+ years | 1 |
Undisclosed * | 3 |
Language spoken | |
Cantonese | 26 |
Living arrangements | |
With spouse | 4 |
With family | 4 |
Alone (Female) | 13 |
Undisclosed * | 5 |
Housing type | |
Subsidized public housing | 18 |
Private flats | 2 |
Subdivided flats | 5 |
Village houses | 1 |
Age when they received public housing | |
Adulthood (up to 44) | 1 |
Late middle age (45–64) | 7 |
Older adulthood (70–79) | 2 |
Not applicable | 8 |
Undisclosed * | 8 |
Marital status | |
Married | 9 |
Widowed | 12 |
Undisclosed * | 5 |
Family members | |
No children | 2 |
1 child | 4 |
2 children | 7 |
3 children | 2 |
4 children | 1 |
5 or more children | 2 |
Undisclosed * | 8 |
Years of waste-picking | |
Less than 1 year | 1 |
1–5 years | 5 |
6–10 years | 6 |
11–20 years | 10 |
21+ years | 4 |
Participants (n = 15) | |
---|---|
Occupations | |
Community-based/non-governmental organizations | 5 |
Recycling industry | 3 |
Others | 7 |
Participants (N = 56) | % | |
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Age | ||
18–40 | 46 | 82.1 |
41–64 | 10 | 17.9 |
District | ||
Hong Kong Island | 7 | 12.5 |
Central and Western | 2 | 3.6 |
Eastern | 5 | 8.9 |
Kowloon | 11 | 19.6 |
Kowloon City | 2 | 3.6 |
Kwun Tong | 3 | 5.4 |
Sham Shui Po | 2 | 3.6 |
Wong Tai Sin | 1 | 1.8 |
Yau Tsim Mong | 3 | 5.4 |
New Territories | 29 | 51.8 |
Islands | 1 | 1.8 |
Kwai Tsing | 1 | 1.8 |
North | 4 | 7.1 |
Sai Kung | 3 | 5.4 |
Sha Tin | 6 | 10.7 |
Tai Po | 4 | 7.1 |
Tuen Mun | 4 | 7.1 |
Yuen Long | 6 | 10.7 |
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Kwan, C.; Tam, H.-C. Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing: A Unique Sub-Group, the “Cardboard Grannies of Hong Kong”. Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2022, 19, 9691. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph19159691
Kwan C, Tam H-C. Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing: A Unique Sub-Group, the “Cardboard Grannies of Hong Kong”. International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. 2022; 19(15):9691. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph19159691
Chicago/Turabian StyleKwan, Crystal, and Ho-Chung Tam. 2022. "Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing: A Unique Sub-Group, the “Cardboard Grannies of Hong Kong”" International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health 19, no. 15: 9691. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph19159691
APA StyleKwan, C., & Tam, H.-C. (2022). Leaving No One behind in Healthy Ageing: A Unique Sub-Group, the “Cardboard Grannies of Hong Kong”. International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, 19(15), 9691. https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph19159691