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Reply to Sethuraman et al. Comment on “Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest. Medicina 2024, 60, 510”

Department of Emergency and Critical Care Medicine, Graduate School of Biomedical and Health Sciences, Hiroshima University, Hiroshima 734-8551, Japan
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Medicina 2024, 60(8), 1289; https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina60081289
Submission received: 19 June 2024 / Revised: 2 August 2024 / Accepted: 5 August 2024 / Published: 9 August 2024
(This article belongs to the Section Cardiology)
We thank the authors of the Letter to the Editor for their astute points raised in reference to our original study [1], “Comment on Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest”.
First, Sethuraman et al. raised concerns about the cutoff values of NSE for neurological outcomes in Kim et al.’s [2] study. This is because the median was higher in the non-shockable group than in the shockable group, whereas the cutoff for NSE with a false-positive rate of less than 1% was higher in the shockable group than in the non-shockable group. As Sethuraman et al. pointed out, this is an unusual situation, but it is not impossible, as shown in Figure 1. We have shown that with such a small sample of patients with positive test results, results similar to those as in Kim et al.’s study can be obtained. Thus, we cannot conclude that Kim et al. misinterpreted the cutoff value, as the authors stated. We would like to revise the discussion of Kim et al.’s study to the following: “Kim et al. reported that the cutoff values of NSE differed depending on the initial waveform”.
Regarding the second point made by Sethuraman et al., we did indeed incorrectly cite a reference by Kim et al. (reference no. 24 in the text) [2], which should have been Perkins et al. (reference no. 25 in the text) [3]. We apologize for this oversight and will correct this in our article. We appreciate the authors’ suggestions, which have helped us refine our report.

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The authors declare no conflicts of interest.

References

  1. Sethuraman, R.M.; Rajarathinam, B.; Kurhekar, P. Comment on Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest. Medicina 2024, 60, 510. [Google Scholar] [CrossRef]
  2. Kim, Y.J.; Kim, Y.H.; Youn, C.S.; Cho, I.S.; Kim, S.J.; Wee, J.H.; Park, Y.S.; Oh, J.S.; Lee, B.K.; Kim, W.Y. Different neuroprognostication thresholds of neuron-specific enolase in shockable and non-shockable out-of-hospital cardiac arrest: A prospective multicenter observational study in Korea (the KORHN-PRO registry). Crit. Care 2023, 27, 313. [Google Scholar] [CrossRef]
  3. Perkins, G.D.; Kenna, C.; Ji, C.; Deakin, C.D.; Nolan, J.P.; Quinn, T.; Fothergill, R.; Gunson, I.; Pocock, H.; Rees, N.; et al. The effects of adrenaline in out of hospital cardiac arrest with shockable and non-shockable rhythms: Findings from the PACA and PARAMEDIC-2 randomised controlled trials. Resuscitation 2019, 140, 55–63. [Google Scholar] [CrossRef]
Figure 1. Example of median and cutoff values reversed; Figure 1 shows that a small sample of patients with positive test results can lead to events similar to those seen in Kim et al.’s [2] study. Figure 1 shows the possibility that a reversal situation can occur, with median values lower in the shockable group but cutoff values for NSE with false-positive rates of less than 1% higher in the shockable group. NSE; neuron-specific enolase. It should be noted that Figure 1 is a figure we created and does not contain references from the literature nor uses actual cases.
Figure 1. Example of median and cutoff values reversed; Figure 1 shows that a small sample of patients with positive test results can lead to events similar to those seen in Kim et al.’s [2] study. Figure 1 shows the possibility that a reversal situation can occur, with median values lower in the shockable group but cutoff values for NSE with false-positive rates of less than 1% higher in the shockable group. NSE; neuron-specific enolase. It should be noted that Figure 1 is a figure we created and does not contain references from the literature nor uses actual cases.
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Utsumi, S.; Nishikimi, M.; Ohshimo, S.; Shime, N. Reply to Sethuraman et al. Comment on “Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest. Medicina 2024, 60, 510”. Medicina 2024, 60, 1289. https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina60081289

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Utsumi S, Nishikimi M, Ohshimo S, Shime N. Reply to Sethuraman et al. Comment on “Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest. Medicina 2024, 60, 510”. Medicina. 2024; 60(8):1289. https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina60081289

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Utsumi, Shu, Mitsuaki Nishikimi, Shinichiro Ohshimo, and Nobuaki Shime. 2024. "Reply to Sethuraman et al. Comment on “Utsumi et al. Differences in Pathophysiology and Treatment Efficacy Based on Heterogeneous Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest. Medicina 2024, 60, 510”" Medicina 60, no. 8: 1289. https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina60081289

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